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chuck jubran
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• jacksonville, FL, USA |
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• Registered on 12/15/2003 |
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 Posted:12/15/2003 15:03 |
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I have a 2002 Excursion 4X4 Powerstroke. Everytime I venture off road and get in heavy Sand, The tires beging to hop Violently. I can't even use all available power. It affects both the front and rear axles. any sugestions? I was thinking about a add aleaf for the front and maybe traction bars for the rear? I want to level out the front end as well. Do yo think the add a leaf will help with wheel hop? and is it suggested for leveling out the front end? and help guys would be appreciated.By the way this truck is bine stock, future plans are underway.
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LANDYOT
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• Subscriber since 11/23/2003 |
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• Newport News, VA, USA |
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• Registered on 7/15/2003 |
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Posted:12/15/2003 16:01 |
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Yes, the Mighty-X, with its anemic leaf springs, DOES suffer from spring wrap. I built my own set of radius-rods for the rear because I couldn't find any commercially available units. If interested, send me an e-mail (just click on my user-name to access my e-mail address), and I'll send you some more info and some pix. Also, some online testimony is available at the following link:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164271
25 years ago, I bought a set of traction bars for a Toyota Landcruiser. I was wanting to improve its offroad performance. My surprise came after installing them, and then driving to a place to get offroad. I crossed a set of railroad tracks that I crossed a couple times each day ... except this time there was no more reverberation coming from the rear end ... the ride had smoothed out tremendously.
After buying the X, and feeling disapppointed with its ride quality, I studied its rear suspension (those lift-blocks provide a lot of leverage for the axle to wrap the leaf springs), and realized the X could benefit from the same type of radius-rods (unlike "traction bars," which work only when accelerating, radius-rods keep the axle in a controlled arc). I looked for a set to fit this beast, but could not find any except those huge ladder-type bars for lifted rigs. Once I decided to build my own, I was going to make just one set and weld them in. After learning others were complaining, too, I changed the design to be mostly a bolt-in job (you do have to cut off the OEM traction bars ... which you won't need anymore).
A few users of this website have installed my kit, and more have expressed their interest and intent to obtain a set in the future. They're now in NY, TN, MA, VA, and HI. And I must confess that the TN-set is still being worked on because the X-owner discovered the early-2000 X model had its rear calipers mounted on opposite sides of the rear axle (driver-side forward & passenger-side aft). Late-2000 and on models all have their calipers mounted on the aft side of the rear axle. I'm building a new design for those early-2000 models, and my TN-buddy gets the first set on me.
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spartan
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• Nashville, TN, USA |
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• Registered on 7/17/2003 |
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Posted:12/18/2003 13:04 |
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Chuck - by all means get a set of Landyots custom radius rods. He does really top notch work.
I tried to talk him into doing hanger kits like the Edge 4.5" system, but he won't bite. His work is equal to or better than anything Donahoe racing produces - welding, materials, etc..
The radius rods will cure your rear wheel hop, but not all your problems. I've done alot of sand cruising while surf fishing and the first thing to do in sand is air down your tires front and rear to about 15PSI. I like 15 because that gets you down the highway to air them back up without too much discomfort or wear. For emergencies - like your stuck and the tide is coming in, air them down to 8PSI if you have to and ALWAYS carry a shovel when driving in sand. Avoid the soggy wet sand, any sand that looks like fine gravel and the fluffy stuff that stalls you.
Some will argue that an X is not a good sand vehicle because of the weight. This does not make it ideal, but the long wheel base is good for sand, add a 3" to 4.5" hanger kit so your springs will have room to move, the radius rods, some good shocks, some wide rims and tires / 12.5's, 315's, 305's, air them down and you will run with the best on the beach.
And don't forget to put your truck in low range. Sand will cook your transmission in high range.
2000 XLT Premium, V10, 4.3 LSD Rear, Edge 4.5" Hanger Lift, Landyot Radius Rods, Hellwig Sway Bar, Dual Bilsteins, 295 75 16 Nitto AT's, Billet Grill, Lengthened and Balanced Driveshaft, Hella 450's, Insulated AC Lines, Modified ZooDad, Husky Liners F to B.
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LANDYOT
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• Subscriber since 11/23/2003 |
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• Newport News, VA, USA |
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• Registered on 7/15/2003 |
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Posted:12/28/2003 19:06 |
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The Generation-II Radius-Rods have finally been developed (put a set on my truck yesterday), and pix are now available. The first set going out gets shipped to Spartan on 12/29/03.
If you wish to see some photos, send an e-mail with "Radius-Rods" in the subject field, and I'll reply with some pix of the Gen-II arrangement. This Gen-II set-up will allow those owners of early-2000 models to use my radius-rods. Whereas this was impossible before due to the rear brake calipers being situated catty-wompass by Ford ... aft of the axle on the passenger side & forward of the axle on the driver side. |
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