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sfd4
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 Posted:3/16/2005 10:39 |
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I have a 2000 X with V10 and 4:10 rear. I have a K&N air filter installed. Other wise it's stock. I just purchased a travel trailer with dry weight of 8400lbs. I also use a Hensley hitch. I will be pulling up some hills but not major ones. Should I do any mods or will I do fine stock? Your experience towing is very helpful.
2000 Excursion V10 Limited. White/Tan
2004 Fleetwood 34ft Travel Trailer |
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CHPMustang
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• Plano, TX, USA |
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Posted:3/16/2005 11:29 |
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I'd be sure to have a Cat Back exhaust system,performance intake(K&N conical) and say a Superchips 1715 programmer to really get some good performance 
On the gas engines the correct equasion of mods add up in the end
Bill
Bill
2002 Excursion XLT-P 4x4 7.3L Powerstroke Diesel
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Mercedes1
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• Brainerd, MN, USA |
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Posted:3/16/2005 11:54 |
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Sounds like we pretty much have the same camper setup . While I don't think my camper dry weight is as much (you must have a slide out or two), I towed my 31' Fleetwood 4 times with my stock '03 X w/ V10. No major problems but with the X being fairly new, I didn't expect any. The X was definately squirrely (sp?) however and liked to move around so I made a couple of mods (shocks and LandYots Radius Rods). While I haven't towed since then, the overall driving experience is quite improved. I can't wait to take the Camper out West in June to see how it'll pull. I also put the K&N in but invested in the FIPK versus just the air filter. Something about more horsepower, to a V10 no less, just made me do it After all, it is all about size, as some have said...
I know it's been mentioned elsewhere, but make sure you have your brake controller set properly (trailer brakes hit first). As you're probably aware, the X's stock brakes are already workin' overtime....
I believe that heroes are those that do what has to be done when it needs to be done, regardless of the circumstances.
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rozett
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• Limington, ME, USA |
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Posted:3/16/2005 16:03 |
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I have a 2000 V10 that has a completely stock intake and exhaust. I deliver firewood and regularly tow a dump trailer that approaches 10,000 pounds. I have no problems towing through hills. On a big hill, the motor is working to earn it's fuel, but I have always recieved what I needed from it.
I did replace the OEM shocks and added a Hellwig anti-sway bar on the rear. Together they made a big difference in handling. Granted, a long travel trailer will suffer from sway more than my dumper. But I think you've taken care of that with the Hensley hitch. The other mod you should consider is replacing the OEM rotors and pads. Basically, they are marginal for the truck before you begin towing heavy loads. I chose ART rotors and pads, but there others that will improve braking performance.
I would argue against any chip on the V10. The performance gain on this motor is pretty slim, but would require higher octane fuel. Since I get the towing performance I need from the stock motor, I can't see the added cost of fuel for such a small gain in HP. Your mileage may vary. 
//bruce
2000 Excursion Limited V10 4x4
ART brakes, Rancho RSX shocks, Hellwig rear sway bar, SD grille, V10 badges, Sylvania Silverstars, clear corners, and Bridgestone Dueler A/T REVO 285s. |
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LANDYOT
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• Newport News, VA, USA |
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Posted:3/16/2005 19:34 |
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| Quote: | | I would argue against any chip on the V10. The performance gain on this motor is pretty slim, but would require higher octane fuel. Since I get the towing performance I need from the stock motor, I can't see the added cost of fuel for such a small gain in HP. Your mileage may vary. |
I have to agree with ROZETT. The chips available for the V10 typically mandate the use of high octane gasoline. Often, after prolonged use of high octane, you can't go back to regular because of the pinging or knocking (pre-ignition). Lower octane fuel has a lower flashpoint than high octane fuel. Your engine is designed for 87 octane. If you were to use higher octane fuel, with its higher flashpoint, you risk creating carbon deposits from incomplete combustion. These deposits will create hot points ... will glow red ... and cause lower octane fuel (with its lower flashpoint) to ignite prematurely. The result? The dreaded ping or engine knock.
Besides, you have the 4.10 gear, too. That will make a big difference in towing capability (mine has the taller 3.73 gear). |
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Scott Stover
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• Fayetteville, NC, USA |
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Posted:3/17/2005 06:08 |
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Im very anxious to tow something with my Ex, Ive got the 4:30 LS in mine...book says 11000 is the max on it!! But Im not even looking at something that big. I know a guy that tows his 42ft Cigarette Tiger with his....bone stock!! Hes getting about 7-8 mpg....but he says he has no issues at all!!
Scott
2000 X 4x4 V-10 4.3 LS
K&N
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E. Long
 
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• Atlanta, GA, USA |
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Posted:3/17/2005 12:37 |
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| Quote: | | Im very anxious to tow something with my Ex, Ive got the 4:30 LS in mine...book says 11000 is the max on it!! But Im not even looking at something that big. I know a guy that tows his 42ft Cigarette Tiger with his....bone stock!! Hes getting about 7-8 mpg....but he says he has no issues at all!! |
Oh man, Scott, you gotta tell him to join up and post some pics. I'd love to see that 42 footer behind the X!
-Eric
'67 Galaxie 500 - 390 FE, .030" over, FE to AOD adapter, disc brake conversion. The Daily Driver.
'00 Excursion - 7.3L PSD, LANDYOT Gen-II Radius Rods, Factory Tech Valve Body, 200K+ miles and going |
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birdman127
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• baltimore, MD, USA |
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Posted:3/17/2005 16:35 |
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| Quote: | | I have a 2000 X with V10 and 4:10 rear. I have a K&N air filter installed. Other wise it's stock. I just purchased a travel trailer with dry weight of 8400lbs. I also use a Hensley hitch. I will be pulling up some hills but not major ones. Should I do any mods or will I do fine stock? Your experience towing is very helpful. |
I will agree with the post above on the V10 towing. I regulary tow 8000lbs to Tenn and N carolina mountains with NO problems.
4.10 gears come on 5.4 v8 models.....Diesel comes with 3.73.....V10 comes with either 3.73 or 4.30..I have the later and at 2000 rpms i am at 70mph.
Axle codes are as posted below
3.73---- 31 - Open Diff ----C1 - Limited Slip
4.10-----32 - Open Diff -----C2 - Limited Slip
4.30-----33 - Open Diff ------C3 - Limited Slip
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Scott
2000 ltd 6.8 V10*4.30LS*
Lots of mods
check my gallery
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Scott Stover
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• Fayetteville, NC, USA |
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Posted:3/18/2005 05:48 |
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Ive got a picture of the boat, I will have to see if I have one of the whole rig.....I will get with him and see if he minds if I post a pic of it!!
Scott
2000 X 4x4 V-10 4.3 LS
K&N
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Mercedes1
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• Brainerd, MN, USA |
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Posted:3/18/2005 19:51 |
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| Quote: | 4.10 gears come on 5.4 v8 models.....Diesel comes with 3.73.....V10 comes with either 3.73 or 4.30..I have the later and at 2000 rpms i am at 70mph.
Axle codes are as posted below
3.73---- 31 - Open Diff ----C1 - Limited Slip
4.10-----32 - Open Diff -----C2 - Limited Slip
4.30-----33 - Open Diff ------C3 - Limited Slip
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Okay, sorry for the repetition, but with age, my memory seems to be leaving me. I consistently get this confused. The 3.73 gears will get better mileage than the 4.10 gears but aren't as good for towing, comparatively speaking.....Right?????? Or do I have that backwards.
Also, when I check the sticker at the bottom of the "B" pillar, it will show either "31" or "C1" for the 3.73 gears OR "32" or "C2" for the 4.10 gears, right?
Thanks.
Keith
I believe that heroes are those that do what has to be done when it needs to be done, regardless of the circumstances.
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