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Scott Jones
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• MCMURRAY, PA, USA |
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 Posted:2/15/2003 10:18 |
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HELLO ALL
Yesterday, while at place that I do business, I was in the parking lot in my 2002 “X”V10, pulling up to the end of the lot and ready to exit almost at a stop! The “X” took off with out any warning. With me standing on the brake at Very high RPM and in 2wd with the front tires spinning? The “X” shot straight out into traffic, where I was hit buy an on coming pickup. While reviewing the accident scene with the officer, he informed me
That he had seen this many times with Ford vehicles. He also stated the marks on the pavement appeared to be “spinning front tires”, not skid marks from the brakes.
There were no marks from my rear tires!!!
This had happened to me once before at a stop sign in a mild form. Unfortunately, I had just purchased the “X” and did not think too much of it.
I also currently own an F350 diesel, and had owned an F150 and an F250 diesel and have never experienced this type of problem.
My wife had a 1996 Ford Taurus company car and in 1997, she had a similar problem. Her car would lunge forward in traffic with her foot on the brake. She had a difficult time with Ford before the problem occurred with a mechanic driving, after this incident, her company retired her car from the fleet. She then drove a 1998 Taurus and never had a problem.
Has anyone ever had to deal with a similar problem? Any suggestions on how to deal with Ford? OR KNOWS WHAT CAUSES THIS TO HAPPEN!
We love our “X”, but we want to be sure this will not happen on a busy highway and cause someone loss of life or limb!
2003 X PS 6.0 LIMITED MINERAL GRAY, SWAY BAR HUSKY MUD FLAPS, FLOOR LINERS, MFG 04-03
2002 X V-10 XLT ***TRADED IN***
99 F350 PSD SRW CC LB BROWNING CAP, TOWING MASTERCRAFT-MARISTAR-230 |
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RS-TX
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• Little River, TX, USA |
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• Registered on 11/22/2002 |
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 Posted:2/15/2003 10:28 |
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Holy cow!!  That's terrible! I've never experienced anything like that, but I can only imagine the fear you must have had. If that happened to me I'd have to replace the drivers seat due to the enormous brown stain! 
I am curious about something. I assume you have a 4x4 since you mentioned that you were in two wheel drive. You state that the marks left on the pavement were from "spinning front tires". Did your X shift into 4HI on its own?
If it were me I would not be able to trust that vehicle again. I would probably get another X.
Rick
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Scott Jones
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• MCMURRAY, PA, USA |
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Posted:2/15/2003 12:06 |
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I don't know if the computer did the shifting or not! I just know the dashboard button was in 2WD. You are right about one thing...how can I trust thsis vehicle again?
2003 X PS 6.0 LIMITED MINERAL GRAY, SWAY BAR HUSKY MUD FLAPS, FLOOR LINERS, MFG 04-03
2002 X V-10 XLT ***TRADED IN***
99 F350 PSD SRW CC LB BROWNING CAP, TOWING MASTERCRAFT-MARISTAR-230 |
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gearman
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• los Angeles, CA, USA |
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• Registered on 1/22/2003 |
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Posted:2/15/2003 17:56 |
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this is very wierd,the front diff is not limited slip and should only spin one tire.does anyone know if the v10 is fly by wire?i dont think it is.as heavy as the X is in 4x4 mode,the rear tires should spin(i dont think you could spin tires in the X in 4x4 hi.so we have a failure at the throttle body(acceleration for no reason)two front tires spinning(with no limited slip)in 2wheel high mode.and no rear wheel spinning.is there something your not telling us?all these problems at once would take an act of God.
mike
01 excursion psd hellwig rear stabalizer 285 michelins suncoast converter transmission custom built with Transgo shift kit,by me.
TTS computer chip,next mod-TTS exhaust system
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Scott Jones
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• MCMURRAY, PA, USA |
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Posted:2/15/2003 18:43 |
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STANDING ON THE BREAKS AND NO BACK TIRE SLIDING OR SPINING ! THE FRONT OF THIS "X" DOES WEIGH MORE THEN THE BACK RIGHT? THE LEFT TRACK IS DARKER THEN THE RIGHT. THIS WAS ON DRY PAVEMENT THE BACK TIRES NEVER MADE A MARK, WERE THE BACK BREAKS BETTER?
SURE WAS A STRANGE FILLING. MY WIFE A I TOOK THE F-350 TO DINNER FIRST TIME OUT IN IT SINCE NOVEMBER, FELT GOOD. THE BRAKE SYSTEM FEELS ALOT STRONGER 60% BETTER THEN THE "X" I THOUGHT THESE WHERE ABOUT THE SAME SYSTEMS?
2003 X PS 6.0 LIMITED MINERAL GRAY, SWAY BAR HUSKY MUD FLAPS, FLOOR LINERS, MFG 04-03
2002 X V-10 XLT ***TRADED IN***
99 F350 PSD SRW CC LB BROWNING CAP, TOWING MASTERCRAFT-MARISTAR-230 |
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E. Long
 
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• Atlanta, GA, USA |
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• MONTGOMERY, AL, USA |
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• Registered on 11/22/2002 |
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 Posted:2/15/2003 20:10 |
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Could it be possible that the back tires were pushing the fronts while the brakes had them(the fronts) locked up, especially with limited slip in the rear? Doesn't seem logical, but the only thing I can come up with with the info provided.  |
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gearman
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• los Angeles, CA, USA |
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• Registered on 1/22/2003 |
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Posted:2/15/2003 21:07 |
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i do not buy this at all.i believe there was something wrong with some thing or someone.no flames.i dont care what your police officer said,these trucks are not known for this,and neither is the taurus.i do work for four police depts.and i asked them about this and they have never heard such a thing.(and we have more cars here than any place on earth).why dont you show us the accident report?
01 excursion psd hellwig rear stabalizer 285 michelins suncoast converter transmission custom built with Transgo shift kit,by me.
TTS computer chip,next mod-TTS exhaust system
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Scott Jones
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• MCMURRAY, PA, USA |
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• Registered on 2/4/2003 |
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Posted:2/16/2003 07:24 |
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gearman, I am a mechanical engineer ( 20 some years ) I can not explain I've only have owned this "x" for about 2000 miles, the "X" move about 20 feet total. the man that hit me agree that the front tires where spining, of course I did not see this. I've been thing alot about this remember I,ve said that the brakes were not near as robust as my F-350. I had the "x" in for a rattle fix (same thing posted on this site heat sheild) and asked the tech about them and he said that that was normal, different weighting front to back then my 350 ???****!!
I'm starting to beleve that there is a brake problem in the "x". how does the breaks feel on other "X's"? on occasion I've had to allmost pump the breaks (feels soft)
2003 X PS 6.0 LIMITED MINERAL GRAY, SWAY BAR HUSKY MUD FLAPS, FLOOR LINERS, MFG 04-03
2002 X V-10 XLT ***TRADED IN***
99 F350 PSD SRW CC LB BROWNING CAP, TOWING MASTERCRAFT-MARISTAR-230 |
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E. Long
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• Atlanta, GA, USA |
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Posted:2/16/2003 08:23 |
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| Quote: | gearman, I am a mechanical engineer ( 20 some years ) I can not explain I've only have owned this "x" for about 2000 miles, the "X" move about 20 feet total. the man that hit me agree that the front tires where spining, of course I did not see this. I've been thing alot about this remember I,ve said that the brakes were not near as robust as my F-350. I had the "x" in for a rattle fix (same thing posted on this site heat sheild) and asked the tech about them and he said that that was normal, different weighting front to back then my 350 ???****!!
I'm starting to beleve that there is a brake problem in the "x". how does the breaks feel on other "X's"? on occasion I've had to allmost pump the breaks (feels soft) |
The bad brakes still doesn't explain why your front wheels were spinning enough to burn rubber onto the pavement and your rears didn't leave any marks. If you've had to pump your brakes then you should get them checked. I've never had this problem on mine. The only problem with brakes on my X are warped rotors which I fixed nearly 25,000 miles ago with ART rotors.
If your X shifted into 4x4 and was at WOT, your brakes were no match for the power of the V10, particularly if your front tires were spinning.
There must be some electrical mishap that caused your X to accelerate without you putting your foot on the pedal. However, the mechanical things like the transfer case won't just disengage the rear driveshaft on the fly because it's not possible. Simply put, you had to be in 4WD to spin the front tires. Since 4WD is engaged by an electronic switch/motor, perhaps this could be linked to an electrical problem?
Sounds pretty weird. Do you have any pictures?
-Eric
'67 Galaxie 500 - 390 FE, .030" over, FE to AOD adapter, disc brake conversion. The Daily Driver.
'00 Excursion - 7.3L PSD, LANDYOT Gen-II Radius Rods, Factory Tech Valve Body, 200K+ miles and going |
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