FlagshipOne
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 Posted:10/21/2004 09:34 |
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As many of us are aware.....for some time now there has been challenges with the brakes and rotors on our X's. I read the other day the Ford finally recognized the fact and the 2005 Excursions apparently have larger rotors on them.
My question is this: will those larger rotors (and brakes) work on earlier models?
FlagshipOne
2000 Excursion Limited
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birdman127
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Posted:10/21/2004 11:45 |
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| Quote: | As many of us are aware.....for some time now there has been challenges with the brakes and rotors on our X's. I read the other day the Ford finally recognized the fact and the 2005 Excursions apparently have larger rotors on them.
My question is this: will those larger rotors (and brakes) work on earlier models?
FlagshipOne
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They to my knowledge Ford didn't upgrade the X they way they updated the Super Duty pick ups. The F-250-350 got bigger brakes, rotors,coil springs up front, tighter sterring, new steering box,stiffer frames, and minor dash overhaul. I will double check but i think the X is living on borrowed time still!!
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FlagshipOne
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Posted:10/21/2004 11:57 |
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will any of those particular upgrades on the SuperDuty's work on the Excursion? |
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E. Long
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Posted:10/21/2004 12:52 |
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The rotors might, I guess it depends how much larger they went. It would be bummer of the new SuperDuty wheels were larger to accomodate the rotor...that'd mean you'd need to upgrade your wheels on the X, too.
As far as the suspension goes, you would need to do some fabrication to make it work. The Excursions use leaf springs and a completely differnet mounting system than coil springs do. There would be a few things you'd have to relocate (possibly brake lines, shock mounts, steering assembly, etc. etc. etc.).
Nothing can't be done, it just wouldn't be a simple bolt-on job.
-Eric
'67 Galaxie 500 - 390 FE, .030" over, FE to AOD adapter, disc brake conversion. The Daily Driver.
'00 Excursion - 7.3L PSD, LANDYOT Gen-II Radius Rods, Factory Tech Valve Body, 200K+ miles and going |
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birdman127
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Posted:10/21/2004 16:16 |
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| Quote: | The rotors might, I guess it depends how much larger they went. It would be bummer of the new SuperDuty wheels were larger to accomodate the rotor...that'd mean you'd need to upgrade your wheels on the X, too.
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Super Duty brake specs for 2005
front rotors 13.66 on 17 in wheels
rear rotors 13.39 on 17 in wheels
siingle axle F-350 18 in wheels with above mentioned brakes
reg cab long bed with 137 inch wheelbase with new suspension specs
4X2 turning radius 47.7 feet
4X4 turning radius 46.1 feet
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E. Long
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Posted:10/21/2004 16:20 |
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| Quote: | Super Duty brake specs for 2005
front rotors 13.66 on 17 in wheels
rear rotors 13.39 on 17 in wheels
siingle axle F-350 18 in wheels with above mentioned brakes |
Thanks for the specs, birdman!!
FlagshipOne: The Excursions come with 16" wheels, so you'd need to go to a larger wheel size to be able to use the new '05 SuperDuty rotors. This is assuming the bolt pattern is still the same.
-Eric
'67 Galaxie 500 - 390 FE, .030" over, FE to AOD adapter, disc brake conversion. The Daily Driver.
'00 Excursion - 7.3L PSD, LANDYOT Gen-II Radius Rods, Factory Tech Valve Body, 200K+ miles and going |
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birdman127
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Posted:10/21/2004 18:07 |
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Bolt pattern is still 8X170 but they(Ford) changed the pitch or threads on the X and super dutys in 02.
I think ours pre 02 is 14mm by 1.5mm newer models have 14mm by 2mm lugs
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dddenio
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Posted:10/21/2004 20:07 |
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My 01' & 02' are the same, if that helps?
DDD
2002 7.3L Excursion 4x4, FTVB, MBRP 4" SS Exhaust, Rancho 9000X shocks, "V" code Front Springs & "B" Code Rear Springs, Ride Rite AirBags, Rear Hellwig Swaybar, Cut Front BumpStops, DieselSite Ext Trans Filter Kit - Coolant Filter Kit & 203 stat, "Scotpart" mod, "Hutched & Pooned", "LandYot" Radius Rods
2001 7.3L F250 CC SB 4x4 with banks monster SS 4", pillar guages, BTS Trans, Cale tuned 6 pos chip, 6oh Trans Cooler, Rancho 9,000X Shocks, DieselSite - Coolant Filter Kit & 203 stat. "Sound Deadend the Cab"
2001 7.3L F350 CC LB 4x4 5" Exhaust, pillar guages, BTS Trans, US Gear Underdrive, DP 6 pos chip, V10 Trans Cooler, DieselSite - Coolant Filter Kit, Evans Coolant, 203 stat, DI reg Fuel Return, GT38R BB Turbo, AFE 2 Intake, Banks Intercooler, Air Rite Bags, |
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Scott Stover
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Posted:10/21/2004 23:19 |
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It figures, It would be nice to have the bigger rotors on the ol Ex...but I hope that she stays around a bit more!! I love mine!! Id really like to have a newer one when I get this one paid for!!
Or better yet, I will get the Super Duty then!! 
Scott
2000 X 4x4 V-10 4.3 LS
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Orf
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Posted:10/23/2004 07:20 |
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| Quote: | Bolt pattern is still 8X170 but they(Ford) changed the pitch or threads on the X and super dutys in 02.
I think ours pre 02 is 14mm by 1.5mm newer models have 14mm by 2mm lugs |
Having just put new wheels on my '04, and having the wrong lugs sent to me, I can attest that my '04 uses 14x1.5. They sent 14x2.0 with the wheels originally. |
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